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October 01, 2007

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Well done on this enjoyable post. I would agree that 'malcoordinated' doesn't exist, but I think it should; Allen highlights the semantic difference between 'mal-' and 'un-' and I think there is room in this case to adopt a new word…
And 'unco' does sound bizarre.

Does that put me on the wrong side of the debate?

urbandictionary.com has definitions for both "malco" and "unco".

I've never heard "malco" before so, personally, I would always use "unco". Maybe it's an Antipodean thing?

Personally, intuitively, I’d say ‘unco’, because ‘malco’ just sounds and feels wrong; but rather than base my opinion on soft reasoning I thought I’d qualify it with the web equivalent of 'Ask the Audience' - Google Fight, I rest my case: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=malcoordinated&word2=uncoordinated

The use of ''malco'' is just a dreadful mishmash of the English language -- and rather ''unco'', linguistically speaking!

Despite the existence of the prefix 'mal', I suspect the use of the word malcoordinated probably results from a transposition from 'malcontent' - a genuine word starting with 'malco' (see link) - to 'uncoordinated'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcontent

I think the word is OK even if not generally accepted yet, and appears to be entering the English language, as Robert says, as a halfway house between coordinated and uncoordinated, like 'moral', 'immoral' and 'amoral'. So, in my humble opinion you are right, but it should be added as it is useful.

Are you a lexical Luddite, or prepared to 'go with the flow'? If new scientific words can be added, why not useful words to graduate other words? What would Samuel have done? English is so exciting (and presumably difficult to learn to speak well) because it has continued to adapt from many sources and has so many fine semantic gradations.

I go along with Robert’s distinction between ‘mal-’ (= badly) and ‘un-’ (= not at all). I don’t think a person can be described as ‘badly coordinated’, though their movements may be. The person is either coordinated or not, so the correct word in this context must be ‘uncoordinated’. 'Malcoordinated' may be more appropriate in other contexts, but what is wrong with ‘ill-coordinated’? It has the same meaning, and gets more Google hits than the mal-word!

I wonder what Steven Pinker would say about all this...

I'm siding with Alice n Phil on this one. 'Malco' is a much better word, sounding nothing like my father's long-lost tightrope-strutting brother (mon oncle, indeed), and - crucially -is far less of an insult ('badly put together' being much nicer than 'absolute klutz'). Friendships are sustained by these gentle slurs - not by outright denunciations - and what more does the world need than a little friendship, eh? :)

At any rate. I thought I'd get my word in before Mr Pinker tells me I've got it all wrong.

Now, sorry to go on about this but... thanks to a very observant colleague, Rachel Mills, we have further proof of the use of 'unco' and this time it comes from ENGLAND (NOT the antipodes):

"I believed myself to be awkward and physically uncoordinated, in fact the unpleasant word 'unco' was always hooted at me whenever I dropped a ball or tripped over."

From Stephen Fry's 'Moab is my Washpot', page 216

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